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Leonard Reinhart's avatar

The Chinese, who graduate more engineers in a year than we do in 10, really don't like paying license fees. Espressive has been making RV chips for a while now. They are not super fast but they are super cheap. I use both the ESP32-C3 and C6 chips that are limited to 140 MHz. Their new ESP32-P4 is a multi-core 400MHz part. Unfortunately the first silicon was buggy enough to require a retape and it will probably be November before Digikey has devkits. There are a multitude of the first rev chips on boards now, but that is just companies clearing out defective inventory. They sorta run but the video compressor is not what is most used and there are instruction bugs too. They were limited by the manufacturer to 360MHz, but I have seen boards advertising 400MHz only to find the part is a rev 1.3 which is EOL by the manufacturer. Other Chinese companies have produced server grade multicore parts and boards. The Reddit RV forum has lots of information. If I remember correctly, Bruce Holt is one of the mods, I think he is located in Australia; he buys, tests and reports on these boards. I have a couple that will run Linux that could be used for daily use, but not real quick. The newer server grade boards are a bit out of my casual spending range.

Pete Wilson's avatar

I reckon that the cost of an Arm license - architectural or chip IP - is a significant factor for low-end chips, but gets lost in the noise for more capable devices. So then the question becomes - does risc v offer at constant technology a substantial silicon area cost advantage at constant performance? Or a substantial performance advantage at constant area? Or substantial architecture-driven power-savings opportunities? And the answer is pretty clear: it’s yet another RISC, so nope - nothing here.

So I’d guess at best it’ll proliferate in the hobby market.

But now that we can leverage AI to build toolchains and silicon quickly and cheaply, I’d expect that custom architectures will make a comeback and risc-v will wither on the vine.

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